Pan - signature

[mick]

When composing new or replies there are four lines between this line and
the signature. Is there any way to reduce this down to two lines by
default, other than having to delete the excess space manually when typing?

[DaveG]

Post by mick
When composing new or replies there are four lines between this line and
the signature. Is there any way to reduce this down to two lines by
default, other than having to delete the excess space manually when typing?

From what I see, it's three lines, and that's normal if replying as the
cursor is placed on line 2, leaving a blank line between the quoted text
and your new text, plus a blank line in place to keep the sig separate
from your reply.

Creating a new post should show two blank lines above the sig, the cursor
placed for typing on Line 1 so that line 2 stays as a separator between
your text and the sig,

Are you sure there isn't an extra blank line or two in your sig? How are
you adding the sig? Is it text in the box, a selected file or a program
generating it?

[mick]

Post by DaveG

Post by mick
When composing new or replies there are four lines between this line
and the signature. Is there any way to reduce this down to two lines
by default, other than having to delete the excess space manually when
typing?

From what I see, it's three lines, and that's normal if replying as the
cursor is placed on line 2, leaving a blank line between the quoted text
and your new text, plus a blank line in place to keep the sig separate
from your reply.
Creating a new post should show two blank lines above the sig, the
cursor placed for typing on Line 1 so that line 2 stays as a separator
between your text and the sig,
Are you sure there isn't an extra blank line or two in your sig? How
are you adding the sig? Is it text in the box, a selected file or a
program generating it?

I'm typing where the cursor started. Sig is text in the box.

[mick]

Post by DaveG

Post by mick
When composing new or replies there are four lines between this line
and the signature. Is there any way to reduce this down to two lines
by default, other than having to delete the excess space manually when
typing?

From what I see, it's three lines, and that's normal if replying as the
cursor is placed on line 2, leaving a blank line between the quoted text
and your new text, plus a blank line in place to keep the sig separate
from your reply.

Its a blank line, cursor on line 2, which is normal, then 3 blank lines
above the two dashes.

Post by DaveG
Creating a new post should show two blank lines above the sig, the
cursor placed for typing on Line 1 so that line 2 stays as a separator
between your text and the sig,

No, its 4 blank lines.

Post by DaveG
Are you sure there isn't an extra blank line or two in your sig? How
are you adding the sig? Is it text in the box, a selected file or a
program generating it?

In the Posting Profile settings it is Signature Type = Text and mick in
the box below.
I have tried it with a text file with my signature in it but it is still
the same outcome. It does not matter if my name has spaces before it as
they are ignored when posting.
It is all down to where Pan is actually putting the two dashes.
I have been going back through the groups looking at some old posts I did
using Pan. They have been posted from Linux Mint Cinnamon, Mint KDE and
PClinuxOS. All show the same blanks line above the sig.

[DaveG]

Post by mick

Post by DaveG

Post by mick
When composing new or replies there are four lines between this line
and the signature. Is there any way to reduce this down to two lines
by default, other than having to delete the excess space manually when
typing?

From what I see, it's three lines, and that's normal if replying as the
cursor is placed on line 2, leaving a blank line between the quoted
text and your new text, plus a blank line in place to keep the sig
separate from your reply.

Its a blank line, cursor on line 2, which is normal, then 3 blank lines
above the two dashes.

Post by DaveG
Creating a new post should show two blank lines above the sig, the
cursor placed for typing on Line 1 so that line 2 stays as a separator
between your text and the sig,

No, its 4 blank lines.

Here's a cut'n'paste of your OP with line numbers added by me :-)

Post by mick
When composing new or replies there are four lines between this line and
the signature. Is there any way to reduce this down to two lines by
default, other than having to delete the excess space manually when typing?
1
2
3
--
mick

Post by DaveG
Are you sure there isn't an extra blank line or two in your sig? How
are you adding the sig? Is it text in the box, a selected file or a
program generating it?

In the Posting Profile settings it is Signature Type = Text and mick in
the box below.
I have tried it with a text file with my signature in it but it is still
the same outcome. It does not matter if my name has spaces before it as
they are ignored when posting.
It is all down to where Pan is actually putting the two dashes.
I have been going back through the groups looking at some old posts I
did using Pan. They have been posted from Linux Mint Cinnamon, Mint KDE
and PClinuxOS. All show the same blanks line above the sig.

The version of Linux should be irrelevant but it does seem to be a
consistent problem either with the builds you are using or your
counting :-)

My install of Pan definitely uses one less line than you are counting
both in new posts (two) and replies (three)

FWIW mine is built from source because I modify it slightly to allow many
more concurrent connection. There is a hard coded limit of 4 connections
per server in the default source code. Another workaround if you need
more connections eg for binaries downloads, you can have multiple
instances of the same server under different profiles thus getting four
connections per profile.

[mick]

Post by DaveG

Post by mick

Post by DaveG

Post by mick
When composing new or replies there are four lines between this line
and the signature. Is there any way to reduce this down to two lines
by default, other than having to delete the excess space manually when
typing?

From what I see, it's three lines, and that's normal if replying as the
cursor is placed on line 2, leaving a blank line between the quoted
text and your new text, plus a blank line in place to keep the sig
separate from your reply.

Its a blank line, cursor on line 2, which is normal, then 3 blank lines
above the two dashes.

Post by DaveG
Creating a new post should show two blank lines above the sig, the
cursor placed for typing on Line 1 so that line 2 stays as a separator
between your text and the sig,

No, its 4 blank lines.

Here's a cut'n'paste of your OP with line numbers added by me :-)

Post by mick
When composing new or replies there are four lines between this line and
the signature. Is there any way to reduce this down to two lines by
default, other than having to delete the excess space manually when typing?
1
2
3
--
mick

Post by DaveG
Are you sure there isn't an extra blank line or two in your sig? How
are you adding the sig? Is it text in the box, a selected file or a
program generating it?

In the Posting Profile settings it is Signature Type = Text and mick in
the box below.
I have tried it with a text file with my signature in it but it is still
the same outcome. It does not matter if my name has spaces before it as
they are ignored when posting.
It is all down to where Pan is actually putting the two dashes.
I have been going back through the groups looking at some old posts I
did using Pan. They have been posted from Linux Mint Cinnamon, Mint KDE
and PClinuxOS. All show the same blanks line above the sig.

The version of Linux should be irrelevant but it does seem to be a
consistent problem either with the builds you are using or your
counting :-)
My install of Pan definitely uses one less line than you are counting
both in new posts (two) and replies (three)
FWIW mine is built from source because I modify it slightly to allow many
more concurrent connection. There is a hard coded limit of 4 connections
per server in the default source code. Another workaround if you need
more connections eg for binaries downloads, you can have multiple
instances of the same server under different profiles thus getting four
connections per profile.

It is not a big issue, but it does look odd having too much white space
above the signature. I have posted this from windows/mesnews and I bet
it will look normal once posted (I don't see the signature in the
posting window, unlike Pan where it is there before doing any typing).

I really want to embrace Linux and move away from windows but it is
little niggles like this in the applications that make it so
frustrating to use.

[DaveG]

Post by mick
I really want to embrace Linux and move away from windows but it is
little niggles like this in the applications that make it so frustrating
to use.

Is it a niggle or just a different way of doing things? This post is
exactly the same as yours in terms of white space. in that Pan placed
three blank lines between the quoted text and the sig. It put the cursor
on the middle line so leaving a blank line between my text and the quoted
text. By not pressing Enter when I've finished typing it means there is
only one blank line between my text and the sig so that saves a whole key-
press :-) When using email on my mobile phone I have to add in an extra
Enter to force a blank line between my text and the sig. So, maybe not
so much a niggle as just a different way of doing things <shrug> :-)

[mick]

Post by DaveG

Post by mick
I really want to embrace Linux and move away from windows but it is
little niggles like this in the applications that make it so frustrating
to use.

Is it a niggle or just a different way of doing things? This post is
exactly the same as yours in terms of white space. in that Pan placed
three blank lines between the quoted text and the sig. It put the cursor
on the middle line so leaving a blank line between my text and the quoted
text. By not pressing Enter when I've finished typing it means there is
only one blank line between my text and the sig so that saves a whole key-
press :-) When using email on my mobile phone I have to add in an extra
Enter to force a blank line between my text and the sig. So, maybe not
so much a niggle as just a different way of doing things <shrug> :-)

I have put pictures in fvbt
These are the windows I get when pressing the post or reply buttons.

Another niggle, I cannot post attachments in Pan, hence the this reply
from MesNews.

Another niggle, if I press the minimise button top right pan goes off
screen and will not open up again when clicking the icon in the task
bar. Have to shut down and re-boot to get it back. Other programs are
ok and can be minimised and opened up again by clicking their icons in
the task bar.

Pan is good for downloading binaries, good enough to replace the
excellent windows Newsbin Pro, but another niggle, it sometimes locks
up when downloading (saving) more than one file at a time. Earlier I
was downloading 14 hefty rar files at once, it locked up after two and
a half, re-booted and it the came back and just carried on and did the
remaining twelve and a half without me intervening, clever bugger.

Dolphin file browser today, just will not see my windows network shares
on any of my other three pc's. Why? they were working last night, I
have not done any thing other than switch the machines on as normal, no
updates, no changes, arrrrrrrrgh.
:-(

[DaveG]

Post by DaveG

Post by mick
I really want to embrace Linux and move away from windows but it is
little niggles like this in the applications that make it so
frustrating to use.

Yeah, just looked. It does seem as if there is an extra blank line both
in replies and new posts. I have no idea why yours should be different
to mine. Maybe try reading/posting to the pan mailing list.

Post by DaveG
Is it a niggle or just a different way of doing things? This post is
exactly the same as yours in terms of white space. in that Pan placed
three blank lines between the quoted text and the sig. It put the
cursor on the middle line so leaving a blank line between my text and
the quoted text. By not pressing Enter when I've finished typing it
means there is only one blank line between my text and the sig so that
saves a whole key-
press When using email on my mobile phone I have to add in an extra
Enter to force a blank line between my text and the sig. So, maybe not
so much a niggle as just a different way of doing things <shrug>

I have put pictures in fvbt These are the windows I get when pressing
the post or reply buttons.
Another niggle, I cannot post attachments in Pan, hence the this reply
from MesNews.

Yes, binary posting support is supposed to be there, )Yenc only so
that'll piss off PhilL) but as far as I can se support is poor and a
little non-standard.

Another niggle, if I press the minimise button top right pan goes off
screen and will not open up again when clicking the icon in the task
bar. Have to shut down and re-boot to get it back. Other programs are
ok and can be minimised and opened up again by clicking their icons in
the task bar.

That sounds like something is broken and unlikely to be Pan itself but
something to do with the Window Manager. Try running pan from a shell
console, eg xterm and see if there are any error messages.

Pan is good for downloading binaries, good enough to replace the
excellent windows Newsbin Pro, but another niggle, it sometimes locks up
when downloading (saving) more than one file at a time. Earlier I was
downloading 14 hefty rar files at once, it locked up after two and a
half,
re-booted and it the came back and just carried on and did the remaining
twelve and a half without me intervening, clever bugger.

That also sounds like a backend or other problem rather than Pan itself.
Again, run from a console and look for error messages.

Dolphin file browser today, just will not see my windows network shares
on any of my other three pc's. Why? they were working last night, I
have not done any thing other than switch the machines on as normal, no
updates, no changes, arrrrrrrrgh.
:-(

Can't help with that. That's scripts etc which are Linux distro
specific. I use NFS exports from my server and mount them on boot so
everything can see them as just another part of the file system. I think
you can mount windows shares in /etc/fstab at boot time, setting options
to allow for "late" mounting if they are not available at boot time and
telling fstab they are SMB type mounts.

Another option to consider is setting up windows to share over NFS
instead. IIRC there's something called Services for Unix which does this.

[Alex Potter]

Post by DaveG
I think
you can mount windows shares in /etc/fstab at boot time, setting options
to allow for "late" mounting if they are not available at boot time and
telling fstab they are SMB type mounts.

No you cant! Google CIFS filesystems and autofs - the fstab way produces
errors...

[DaveG]

Post by Alex Potter

I think you can mount windows shares in /etc/fstab at boot time,
setting options to allow for "late" mounting if they are not available
at boot time and telling fstab they are SMB type mounts.

No you cant! Google CIFS filesystems and autofs - the fstab way
produces errors...

Oh, ok then. It's something I never tried. I discovered early on that
NFS was faster and more efficient than CIFS/SMB so never used it it. I
do export CIFS/SMB shares from the server because I can't convince my
wife to stop using shitty java games on facebook so she's still using
Windows :-)

NFS just makes more sense because pretty much every OS supports it in one
form or another. Even ES FIle Explorer on my android phone :-)

[Alex Potter]

Post by DaveG
NFS just makes more sense because pretty much every OS supports it in one
form or another. Even ES FIle Explorer on my android phone :-)

I agree. I gave up on CIFS - just too flaky.

[mick]

Post by DaveG

Post by DaveG

Post by mick
I really want to embrace Linux and move away from windows but it is
little niggles like this in the applications that make it so
frustrating to use.

Yeah, just looked. It does seem as if there is an extra blank line both
in replies and new posts. I have no idea why yours should be different
to mine. Maybe try reading/posting to the pan mailing list.

Good idea, I'll do that.

Post by DaveG

Post by DaveG
Is it a niggle or just a different way of doing things? This post is
exactly the same as yours in terms of white space. in that Pan placed
three blank lines between the quoted text and the sig. It put the
cursor on the middle line so leaving a blank line between my text and
the quoted text. By not pressing Enter when I've finished typing it
means there is only one blank line between my text and the sig so that
saves a whole key-
press When using email on my mobile phone I have to add in an extra
Enter to force a blank line between my text and the sig. So, maybe not
so much a niggle as just a different way of doing things <shrug>

I have put pictures in fvbt These are the windows I get when pressing
the post or reply buttons.
Another niggle, I cannot post attachments in Pan, hence the this reply
from MesNews.

Yes, binary posting support is supposed to be there, )Yenc only so
that'll piss off PhilL) but as far as I can se support is poor and a
little non-standard.

I did read somewhere that binary support was going to be included a few
versions back but so far it has failed to materialise.
I did get JBinUp installed and working after a phaff about but since
doing a test posting to fvbt its never wanted to open again, that will
please PhilL ;-)

Post by DaveG

Another niggle, if I press the minimise button top right pan goes off
screen and will not open up again when clicking the icon in the task
bar. Have to shut down and re-boot to get it back. Other programs are
ok and can be minimised and opened up again by clicking their icons in
the task bar.

That sounds like something is broken and unlikely to be Pan itself but
something to do with the Window Manager. Try running pan from a shell
console, eg xterm and see if there are any error messages.

OK, I was going to re-install it over the top of the existing, but I
don't think you can do that without removing the program first. I was
reluctant to do that as I really don't want to have to go through all
the setup again for the umpteenth time :-)

Post by DaveG

Pan is good for downloading binaries, good enough to replace the
excellent windows Newsbin Pro, but another niggle, it sometimes locks up
when downloading (saving) more than one file at a time. Earlier I was
downloading 14 hefty rar files at once, it locked up after two and a
half,
re-booted and it the came back and just carried on and did the remaining
twelve and a half without me intervening, clever bugger.

That also sounds like a backend or other problem rather than Pan itself.
Again, run from a console and look for error messages.

OK.

Post by DaveG

Dolphin file browser today, just will not see my windows network shares
on any of my other three pc's. Why? they were working last night, I
have not done any thing other than switch the machines on as normal, no
updates, no changes, arrrrrrrrgh.
:-(

Can't help with that. That's scripts etc which are Linux distro
specific. I use NFS exports from my server and mount them on boot so
everything can see them as just another part of the file system. I think
you can mount windows shares in /etc/fstab at boot time, setting options
to allow for "late" mounting if they are not available at boot time and
telling fstab they are SMB type mounts.
Another option to consider is setting up windows to share over NFS
instead. IIRC there's something called Services for Unix which does this.

It has been working fine so there must be something simple, perhaps
just the boot sequence of everything on the network. I'll power
everything off and go and kick the substation a few times after I've
had a nice Indian thats about to arrive. :-)

[DaveG]

Post by mick
OK, I was going to re-install it over the top of the existing, but I
don't think you can do that without removing the program first. I was
reluctant to do that as I really don't want to have to go through all
the setup again for the umpteenth time

If you remove/reinstall it will work without set up. All the setup files
and info is in ~/.pan2 and that won't get removed if you remove Pan.
There also ought to be a way using your package manager to force a
reinstall of a package. But that may not fix anything since your
problems might well relate to an underlying library or other support file/
program

[mick]

Post by DaveG

Post by mick
OK, I was going to re-install it over the top of the existing, but I
don't think you can do that without removing the program first. I was
reluctant to do that as I really don't want to have to go through all
the setup again for the umpteenth time

If you remove/reinstall it will work without set up. All the setup files
and info is in ~/.pan2 and that won't get removed if you remove Pan.
There also ought to be a way using your package manager to force a
reinstall of a package. But that may not fix anything since your
problems might well relate to an underlying library or other support file/
program

Another one solved, top marks for you tonight Dave ;-)

Was able to force re-install via package manager, but it made no
difference.

When minimised, Pan was hiding behind the desktop. Alt-tab brings it
back, a chance discovery on my part. Have now set "Hide to system
tray" in Pan miscellaneous settings. This creates a Pan icon over on
the right hand side of the task bar in the system tray where a click on
that will bring it back. Maybe that is a default setting and I have
messed with it but I don't recall doing so.

[DaveG]

Post by mick

Post by DaveG

Post by mick
OK, I was going to re-install it over the top of the existing, but I
don't think you can do that without removing the program first. I was
reluctant to do that as I really don't want to have to go through all
the setup again for the umpteenth time

If you remove/reinstall it will work without set up. All the setup
files and info is in ~/.pan2 and that won't get removed if you remove
Pan. There also ought to be a way using your package manager to force a
reinstall of a package. But that may not fix anything since your
problems might well relate to an underlying library or other support file/
program

Another one solved, top marks for you tonight Dave ;-)
Was able to force re-install via package manager, but it made no
difference.
When minimised, Pan was hiding behind the desktop.

I'm not sure what you mean. Even minimised, an app should still be on
the task bar and should reappear when left clicked or give you a menu pop-
up if you right clicked. If for some odd reason the window has restored
"off -screen" then right clicking it's task bar entry --> More Actions
then Move, you can use the arrow keys to move the app window,

Another possibility is it appeared on a different workspace and your task
bar is set to only show apps on the current workspace. You'd need to
select each work space to find it. I suppose that could happen
accidentally if you've set the workspace switching to occur when the
cursor is at a screen edge.

Post by mick
Alt-tab brings it
back, a chance discovery on my part. Have now set "Hide to system tray"
in Pan miscellaneous settings. This creates a Pan icon over on the
right hand side of the task bar in the system tray where a click on that
will bring it back. Maybe that is a default setting and I have messed
with it but I don't recall doing so.

I have to admite, I'd almost forgotten about alt-tab, It's one of those
things I rarely need or use since I use a consolidated task bar, ie each
of my four workspaces share the same one so clicking on an app in the
task bar selects the relevant workspace.

Notice in particular that as the cube rotates showing the virtual
desktops that the display is still running, eg the video is still playing.

[mick]

Post by DaveG

Post by mick

Post by DaveG

Post by mick
OK, I was going to re-install it over the top of the existing, but I
don't think you can do that without removing the program first. I
was reluctant to do that as I really don't want to have to go through
all the setup again for the umpteenth time

If you remove/reinstall it will work without set up. All the setup
files and info is in ~/.pan2 and that won't get removed if you remove
Pan. There also ought to be a way using your package manager to force
a reinstall of a package. But that may not fix anything since your
problems might well relate to an underlying library or other support file/
program

Another one solved, top marks for you tonight Dave ;-)
Was able to force re-install via package manager, but it made no
difference.
When minimised, Pan was hiding behind the desktop.

I'm not sure what you mean. Even minimised, an app should still be on
the task bar and should reappear when left clicked or give you a menu pop-
up if you right clicked. If for some odd reason the window has restored
"off -screen" then right clicking it's task bar entry --> More Actions
then Move, you can use the arrow keys to move the app window,
Another possibility is it appeared on a different workspace and your
task bar is set to only show apps on the current workspace. You'd need
to select each work space to find it. I suppose that could happen
accidentally if you've set the workspace switching to occur when the
cursor is at a screen edge.

Post by mick
Alt-tab brings it back, a chance discovery on my part. Have now set
"Hide to system tray"
in Pan miscellaneous settings. This creates a Pan icon over on the
right hand side of the task bar in the system tray where a click on
that will bring it back. Maybe that is a default setting and I have
messed with it but I don't recall doing so.

I have to admite, I'd almost forgotten about alt-tab, It's one of those
things I rarely need or use since I use a consolidated task bar, ie each
of my four workspaces share the same one so clicking on an app in the
task bar selects the relevant workspace.
http://youtu.be/Hz1ZLr-DX3c
Notice in particular that as the cube rotates showing the virtual
desktops that the display is still running, eg the video is still playing.

It MUST be me that's screwed it up, I don't know how or what I had done.
I decided to remove the panel at the bottom of the screen. I then added a
default panel and that has solved the problem. I have put the icons back
on the left side of the panel for the most used programs.
Now, when I open a program from an icon it shows in the middle part of the
panel - to the right of those icons - what program or window is open when
it is minimised. That is the part of the panel (task manager) I did not
have before, somehow it had been deleted from the panel, by me or those
little people that come in the night.;-)

All is well now, for the time being.:-)

[DaveG]

Post by mick
It MUST be me that's screwed it up, I don't know how or what I had done.
I decided to remove the panel at the bottom of the screen. I then added
a default panel and that has solved the problem. I have put the icons
back on the left side of the panel for the most used programs.
Now, when I open a program from an icon it shows in the middle part of
the panel - to the right of those icons - what program or window is open
when it is minimised. That is the part of the panel (task manager) I
did not have before, somehow it had been deleted from the panel, by me
or those little people that come in the night.;-)
All is well now, for the time being.

Yes, the task bar is fully customisable, far more so than the Windows
task bar. If you accidentally remove something or change the behaviour,
it's not always obvious how to get that functionality back when it's
something you've not seen before, especially as a user coming from
Windows where that functionality doesn't even exists "out of the box".

As you discovered though, you can always just add in a new "default" task
bar :-)

[mick]

Post by DaveG

Post by mick
It MUST be me that's screwed it up, I don't know how or what I had done.
I decided to remove the panel at the bottom of the screen. I then added
a default panel and that has solved the problem. I have put the icons
back on the left side of the panel for the most used programs.
Now, when I open a program from an icon it shows in the middle part of
the panel - to the right of those icons - what program or window is
open when it is minimised. That is the part of the panel (task
manager) I did not have before, somehow it had been deleted from the
panel, by me or those little people that come in the night.;-)
All is well now, for the time being.

Yes, the task bar is fully customisable, far more so than the Windows
task bar. If you accidentally remove something or change the behaviour,
it's not always obvious how to get that functionality back when it's
something you've not seen before, especially as a user coming from
Windows where that functionality doesn't even exists "out of the box".
As you discovered though, you can always just add in a new "default"
task bar :-)

Perhaps this is why most programs seem to be rather bland on first
appearance compared to their windows counterparts. There is so much to
customise that it can be overwhelming at times. Back tracking to undo
something that's not quite right can be painful to find again, especially
as I tend to get side tracked by another tweak that might look good. Like
a kid in a sweetshop rings true at times.

I have a new question that I cannot seem to find an answer to, so a new
thread coming up.

[mick]

Post by DaveG

Post by mick
Dolphin file browser today, just will not see my windows network shares
on any of my other three pc's. Why? they were working last night, I
have not done any thing other than switch the machines on as normal, no
updates, no changes, arrrrrrrrgh.
:-(

Can't help with that. That's scripts etc which are Linux distro
specific. I use NFS exports from my server and mount them on boot so
everything can see them as just another part of the file system. I think
you can mount windows shares in /etc/fstab at boot time, setting options
to allow for "late" mounting if they are not available at boot time and
telling fstab they are SMB type mounts.
Another option to consider is setting up windows to share over NFS
instead. IIRC there's something called Services for Unix which does this.

Problem solved: boot linux computer as the last item to join the
network

[DaveG]

Post by DaveG

Post by mick
Dolphin file browser today, just will not see my windows network
shares on any of my other three pc's. Why? they were working last
night, I have not done any thing other than switch the machines on as
normal, no updates, no changes, arrrrrrrrgh.
:-(

Can't help with that. That's scripts etc which are Linux distro
specific. I use NFS exports from my server and mount them on boot so
everything can see them as just another part of the file system. I
think you can mount windows shares in /etc/fstab at boot time, setting
options to allow for "late" mounting if they are not available at boot
time and telling fstab they are SMB type mounts.
Another option to consider is setting up windows to share over NFS
instead. IIRC there's something called Services for Unix which does this.

Problem solved: boot linux computer as the last item to join the network

Ah, that sounds like someone is fighting to be the browse master and is a
sore loser! Google network sharing browse master for more gory details.

[mick]

Post by DaveG

Post by DaveG

Post by mick
Dolphin file browser today, just will not see my windows network
shares on any of my other three pc's. Why? they were working last
night, I have not done any thing other than switch the machines on as
normal, no updates, no changes, arrrrrrrrgh.
:-(

Can't help with that. That's scripts etc which are Linux distro
specific. I use NFS exports from my server and mount them on boot so
everything can see them as just another part of the file system. I
think you can mount windows shares in /etc/fstab at boot time, setting
options to allow for "late" mounting if they are not available at boot
time and telling fstab they are SMB type mounts.
Another option to consider is setting up windows to share over NFS
instead. IIRC there's something called Services for Unix which does this.

Problem solved: boot linux computer as the last item to join the network

Ah, that sounds like someone is fighting to be the browse master and is a
sore loser! Google network sharing browse master for more gory details.

Interesting, learn something new every day. ;-)

[DaveG]

Earlier I was downloading 14 hefty rar files at once, it locked up after
two and a half,
re-booted and it the came back and just carried on and did the remaining
twelve and a half without me intervening, clever bugger.

I just had a thought. Article cache size. Mine is set quite large and
has been for years. As stated in another posts, the prefs are in ~/.pan2
so carry over automatically from one install to another so I've not
changed mine in quite some time now. Downloading "hefty" rar files which
might have large article size might clobber a small(ish) article cache,
especially if it needs to join many articles to make up the file.

My article cache size is 200MB and it's never been a problem for
downloading binaries.

Most of the time I just type .nzb into the search box then download just
those nzb's I want to my server /stuff/news/nzb and Sabnzbd magically
finds them and downloads the relevant files leaving my PC do the stuff I
want instead of doing the downloading/assembling. One day I'll work out
why it doesn't automatically pick up par2 files when it fails :-(

[mick]

Post by DaveG

Earlier I was downloading 14 hefty rar files at once, it locked up
after two and a half,
re-booted and it the came back and just carried on and did the
remaining twelve and a half without me intervening, clever bugger.

I just had a thought. Article cache size. Mine is set quite large and
has been for years. As stated in another posts, the prefs are in
~/.pan2 so carry over automatically from one install to another so I've
not changed mine in quite some time now. Downloading "hefty" rar files
which might have large article size might clobber a small(ish) article
cache, especially if it needs to join many articles to make up the file.
My article cache size is 200MB and it's never been a problem for
downloading binaries.
Most of the time I just type .nzb into the search box then download just
those nzb's I want to my server /stuff/news/nzb and Sabnzbd magically
finds them and downloads the relevant files leaving my PC do the stuff I
want instead of doing the downloading/assembling. One day I'll work out
why it doesn't automatically pick up par2 files when it fails :-(

I have now increased it to 1Gb.
Those rar files were all roughly the same size, so it did 12 of them with
no problem with the cache set at the default 10Mb